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2011-05-05

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Expressing a bit of self-esteem in our own ability to heighten moral and amuse myself a bit

i do not regard that as a problem.
As I see it protets are good but they want do much more anyway.

Hence the less shit they have hanging around their the likelier we are to succeed cause more people poking around is just confusion. Hence well libya might fit them. They figure that out well whe they can come play our game.

The big wolfs.

Well anything it takes really as I see it.
Yes. I could use u here as well so u think about that.
I could use you more down their. And if you go it is very unlikely you will return.

I expect 5 - 15% of us return.

Thanks. It will be nice meeting you down their if we go.
[Vår färgstarka engelsman har tagit ledigt från armén för att följa med oss. Man kan spekulera att givet diverse händelser vi infört rörande hur England har agerat att en uppgift i det är att hålla lite kontroll över de här specialkulorna som infördes som möjliga, diverse raketgevär, gevär av olika slag m.m. Men romantiska orsaker visar sig vara orsaken. Lite färg i det hela.]

Battle code

Well lets get in shape when.
Not a day to late I hope.
The Tiger will fit me as always.
[Tar min gamla stridskod.]
Fuck I am rockid solid [...].

Map

Great.
Not fast yet but better than I expect.
Love the map. It is so fast.
[Refererar till Bing som är byggd på Openstreet och diverse open-source runt det med Creative commons vilken just är väldigt snabb. Perfekt också just för sådant här genom kopplingen till databaserna över vägar, entiteter m.m. Mycket smidigt.] And without all that shit. Yeah I am on top.
Fucking I thought i would have to re read the roads going down but it is all back some how.
And yeah I did learned japanese once. I have to give NSA credit for telling me. Not sure I would have remembered if not.

Rekryterar några psykopater från brittiska fängelser som benådas åt oss Ask junior also if we can get like a few good men from them.

Mean bastards. But like. Who feels it is like well like it for the figtht.
no like omg we can die here. Send the chopter to pick us up.

nah np i do not care what the fuck they done before.

yeah yeah i know u do but well it is yeah nah the worst fuck s he got or know about.

not the lot who like dislike it down heir cause w gonna die but fucking go high on it. that is what we need.

i do not want people standing in the way looking dumb or scared.

Well could they release for me when. yeah wtf do i c are.
as i said i care not. u got what i want and that sounds perfect for me.
[Jag kom inte ihåg vilka brott de antogs ha begått här men för uppgiften de planerades för troligt ganska lämpliga.]

if possible take them.

yeah i got that from what you said. But I do not object to that. This is no fuck here it is a merit as i see it.

People so mad that they do not scare and that look good for people.
i like that.

we yeah u know here she is the same.
she is good.
[Avseende den person Junior fått ersätta som roll-karaktär. En psykopat mer eller mindre. Verkligen en av de mest lyckade karaktärer som används i simuleringar över åren. Men Junior hade värde: omväxling. Det upplevdes väl kanske som det kan vara tråkigt att spela henne för många gånger och att President kunde ha värde.]

take them.
if hey can pardon or wtf they do.

nah i do not wanna talk to him. for now on it is u and me if no group talk. it distract changing context.

yeah i know u object. i like that with u. u keep doing that. and u keep being u self here. u pay no matter if i swear over u. u the best for this.
[Min person för kommunikation har till uppgift att argumentera emot alla beslut jag fattar. Han gör det generellt också med andra. Åtminstone tills jag skjuter om honom längre p.g.a. av en missuppfattning.]

Soliga Australien

nah down to australia it is for them.
we take them with the speeders a bit before.
[Australien bidrar med diverse utrustning. Mest vapen så diverse folk tar den vägen och går därefter in med båt och när konflikten börjar med båtar som håller hög hastighet för att med viss sannolikhet kunna klara sig förbi flygplan som antas skjuta vad de nu skjuter på båtar. Stenar kanske eller raketer.]
i want them be on land when i come in.
if so if so.
These well illegal bullets with nuclear cap.
He got them for us. But I am unsure how we shal take it down.
[Kulorna som adderar ett enormt värde genom att ta ut pansarvagnar för vem som helst antas vara olagliga p.g.a. FN eller liknande. I verkligheten tror jag inte att det stämmer men det har införts i simuleringen]
That we well the amry got them for us for reserch gehin the
back so it is very sensitive.

but they needed. For a special thing .
Gotta take out tanks theuy got through.
Uranium or some shit on them though.

not sure how they function but they pass right in and explode.

they illegal though cause they are dumb dumb formal and as I understod it that was ruled out like in the beinning of the 1900-centuary. fully moron if i got it right. iw as liked shocked so i do nott ntus i got it right. i mean u shoot u shoot to kill. aren't no clear shot. war is pain. it is hell. so it is. arent better for such.

but we need to be a bit smart with that. So if they could like steam down one of their steam boats nyeah u rih
[Not a steam boat but refering to a previous stimulation their a wailer I think was used to make the loosing side look very bad and through that increase moral while motivate the enemy next time to try a bit harder.]

not sure how long it takes. but u right.
well when ask hiom for another. when.
and we take it airwy.

yeah well we can go benelux if needed also for that.

but i we do not call on them until it is solid go go.

here we keep to friends who get how it is and noo well irritate cause wll we gotta be ready if we do but it is yeha.

i know u object. u keep doing that every time u do.

see to it he give them some weapons they used to and so on.
it want be proble good good.

nah do not. they are for another. they trained for shooting tanks.

out with the police force.
[När vi refererar till polis kan det vara fyra olika: polis vi kontrollerar i staden, polis vi tränat själva för att hindra samhället från att brytas sönder om revolutionen lyckas, polis som är okänd d.v.s. varken säkert skulle vara ej samarbetande men där vi inte vet om så är fallet och polis vi vet är fientlig.]

nah they go right through and when they explode and kill them.
like expensive weapons. well htthey ese are too. this is like yeah a lot i can sya. a lot.
but like nothign compare to them.

yeah well they can research so thy set us up. They was like trying them out on thir own tanks anything. it is very chocking for all them ig weapon [Olämpligt ord].
[Många är ju så roade av stora vapen men de är sällan bättre.]

yeah.
they die.
it is magic.
it is a rifle gun a bit bigger only.
cost like 8 million a peace and the ullets arent sheap.
[Hittar på en siffra som inte otroligen skulle kunna tänkas stämma givet att jag tror en del krävs för den hastighet kulan behöver för att ge en rimlig rörelsemängd vilket bör kräva en del sofisterade legeringar o.s.v. ha en del patenter samt en tämligen unik marknad.]

but we can take out tanks with one shoot.

u do not miss a tank and the die in it.

even if it is not like u gotta hit some shit.
it breaks through.

yeah i was also. i esas like they do not u lot hrow away all these moron weapns and scvave a bunchof moeny. and they was nah it is ilelgl. Wtf. sop u can airbomb when with napalm and cluster well clusters perhaps also got some shit but u cant use this which require less osliders in the fiht and hence less damage no matter if they survie.

So i was like u get us some of hthwese cause i have no good way to handle them tanks. And they was all like oh it is nopt possible. They are counted and bla bla.

And when i plauged forhem for like 14 months now and when twe got them a few months aog. they payed for htem also.

i ean like talking to children. Och no this one is wrong oh yeah well iit just are. i mean they got their work wrong and it cost human lifes.

yeah like one ever would not go to battle with that one against tank. Think again when u know it exist.

One shoot and they are all dead. Get it.
It cuts through and when it explods.
The first was a likelihood a bit like the lesser bigger but I got them a bit change so now they all die.

yeah. just that.
Np

here we fit them up around in the come in with the tnaks. It is long clear roads.
We can sniper them on a long distance. A long.
U take the front and the back out and when the rest.
No moe comes in that way for like a motnh.

Get it.

yeah.

And they was oh w just got it to research on over tank
which is so good. wtf they call it. Crusader i think .
or some on c anyway.

yeah moe than i year bugging them and others and when they got us enough .payed for it. yah yeah sorry. i am so bloody fucking pissed how they waste money on other lesser weapons costin glike 100 imes as much. when they got this.

oh it is formal a dumb dumb bullet so it is wrong to kill a tank with.

wtf.
well clasify it as a granate weapon when u dumb fuck.

nah i didnt u got yeah he he.
but he he.

good good.
good to know she is on her way.
nice play. big.

did she good.
yeah well life well.

yeah yeha.
wll i shall read.

how thdid me big girl look when?
[Min hustru och president] good.

well wshe was here just the other day.
three hourrs topthough.

nah she was with m yeah.
well yeah lif u know.
if we surivie this if we go go perhaosyeah
well i got stuff to read up on.

oo to see well yeah thanks

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Ok I am inshape if needed.
No np.
Ok all we are all on yes.
But no. But we need to hold full now for around 36 h.
Battle time scales now.
I have already start calling people down to Japan and Taiwan.
No we are waiting for information.
[Refering to spies crossing border to North Korea given an interresting twist by saying we have the abilty to move out controlling the custom and hence if the report would be bad that is we can not release North Korea to revolution concurrent we would prefer to move out and wait say a year or two.]
If it looks ok we go direct.
If not it is anything between now and well any time really.
I lieave command to Mr Z.
GG
And keep heads uop for the risk is that when we loose
shit they go hunting.
So heads up.
Good luck.

3

Do not forget. You are menance.
We are not nice.
We risk our life.
We do what ever is needed.
Anything and anyone whos tands in our way to moment it is go. We take care of. Have no doubt of that.
Good luck.

4

You junior
[Junior being a colorful english man who swears a lot. He has been used very short times before but never as expressed like this. His main function is to add a bit of amusement to it replacing another character which exist but is not played by anyone - Ninja - which instead here plays my wife.]
nah npbut i need a talk some time the follow 24 - 36 h
yeah.
Yes
We consider.
You and your boss and Mr A in US besides top
with ous.
No one else cause we leak as u know.
Nah I run them up and down code red for like hell
the hwol eyear so i doubt they even if they got it
manage to react to it.
We consider.
Yes serious.
Hence. Besides. That I need yes. A horse so to speak.
Fast. I want one who can fly in very low risking shot down.

That I if really needed can air drop from in the water.
Yeah i got boats already.

Yes np at all. i would prefer that. it add like nothing to the travel time.

We are as short it goes.
But.
We are strong now.
Aren't fatted they fight again.

Yeah. Well u know.

A boat if possible. Yeah well i know.
I have one promised by well yeah exactly.


It isn't that fast though but when they never are.

But we can run it on speeders several if the wind isn't to high.

I do not know them but i want talk to ither and ou keep them out of it until we are go go or not go.

If we go go and we fail and I kill myself. yeah well it is fucking pain and i prefer not to.

So no worry about that. This on we are all in to win or loose if we go. 5

yeah yeah.
A petitess.
But my old glock.
Nah i want the old one. I liked it. I understod how it worked.
I never do with guns.
fuck i could not get a horse with shit.
but eyh e yeah.
yeah but it was like sed when i got it. a new one u might
have to assemlbe and like aneginge shoot ok
well that will do when.
Nah i want it. I liked it plastic
why
u so fuck u go expert and some thing and u l
eh.
i mean really i am no good at it so i doubt it make
any difference and this on i wa have used bit yeah
fuck
well when nah nah do not do shit nah fuck i used to have
like a bit of store up their also.
yeah well whe do u have another 16 which u can have a 1 or two
extra in.
i mean i do muss lot if i have to use it
and msotly i will have it ot point with and shoot in the air
if any. to like well u know.
yeah well why not.
nah i had them old from the ambassad here when they but
i cleaned otu here.
yeah lot of ambassad stuff left though.
well not know but for long.
but whe get hem yeah.
nah fuck no automat. i would shoot more of us with that.
Easy to use.
fuck it.
yeah well i pick on up in london on the way with the
army corp,.
who will fly it .
good.
thanks for that.
like the old days when.
dont want any one well u know. might well be a bit problematic.
and i am not sure he can return with it. might be best we both
jump.
good. nah he likes that. he odd that way. myself i am
scared shitless of the very thought.
i hope i dont have to though.
but if needed.
i cant tell u. but we wait for information. yeah beijing.
yeah. or china anyway. perhaps north korea. who knows.
yeah.
hope? i have not have hoped for years in any. i fight this
for iwn and that is all. As good we can. No more and no less.
More we can not do. And less we want do.
Wehn what it cost me and others that is another story.
i cant take any care of that from now on. to be honest here. We go go. I expect to win.
I epect around 10% of my people still be alive at that point.
[Notice count here and compare it to number of people assumed in simulation. The trap is solid good I think real life or not - it is not explained of course - but it requires around 90% of the people to die.]
That is how narrow it will be.
Hence I wills tand fifth. here. Still u will need that plan
fucking standing by cause i might need to go the very same night.

i go when we loose the second.

Thats my hope when go go.
We do not regard it as a concept. We play to win.
Thats all. Set

Send some one over to her and see the kid is moved
to the lords place out at the police training.

Yeah no matter what she says. I want it solid safe as it is from now on.

A bit of pep talk to management

Now we let out hunger, hate and revenge.
And kill all other.
Cause if we go go. If it looks good.
I shall win it.
And I will revenge on the way.
Doubt not anythign else.

How to use my wife given limited resources, sure death in most needed positions and so on - a concurrent on going moral problem

She is acting standing two.
[Refering to second line of five lines in the trap. The first line being mobile between houses in Shanghai having the major function of destroying tanks moving in using special coated bullets in rifles - uranium to cut through and nervgas to kill the people in them.]
Yes you can cancel that one.
I would love if not but I cant spar her as it is.
She is going in a few hours.
See to it she writes a will regarding the kid also so
it want be soe problem. I would think her mother might
be suitable. Seems very able and rather young.
[Seems good to leave your kid - mine also - some letter given a more or less sure death you travel to well known for both.]

Yeah if she want to. But hi if she goes down their it will be bad so when it is very unlikely any of us comes back.
Cause we loose her it is fucking likely 3 4 5 goes also cause when it is time issue.

u know. So make shure she do not expect any of us to come out of it. If she gotta see to anything now she gotta do it. Cause it might be bad. Very bad this one.

Take a camera if she wanna take a few photos of her self before she leaves. Send them with the kid.
[Ung. Kan önska att få veta hur hennes föräldrar såg ut.]

Looking over practical matter of going myself first to London to get the airplan after some basic personal protection

nah keep her off me line.
yeah. official line no more.

could u go by the armie corp and sign out a gun for me also.
call talk to him the wyeah well the well the one in charge dont noremember his name.

a glock.
used one. not new.

keep it ain the airplan junior set is up with.
sync with him with any other u need also and he fix it.


nah i come another path to it so to speak if so.
[Going different path relative any other with ability to lead the "army". I go by North Pool if simulation had gone so long and when down through Russia and out besides Japan and into Shanghai on a very light airplan.]

nah we want it fucking light. They will tear it out for us.

reduce it as much as possible. and we probably if he want object for not returning low fuel also.

yeah i am no expert but it might be a fucking close one.

less weight is good. might save a minute or two. nd that imight be pretty much if it is narrow.

nah we take no other.

have junior set u up for another airfield.

We really will go light on this one.
they tear it all out.

yeah that would been relaxed but I am well known.
[Assuming it is notice I come it means revolution. Given sync. with other operations I also come very late as plan to the battle in Shanghai. ]

but we will recruite three our four other from them.
a bit bigger though like with apartment for sitting back.
like a small normal.
nah they rent or buy them i think. this one is from like some english media entity of some kind they got.

yeah some friend of junior.

i hope so cause i doubt it is coming back if we go.

man u always so bloody down to earth. i like that in u.

i am 99% on top.
I go battle sight now.

Syrien - Hårdare linjer dragna

Lite lustigt formulerat kanske men visst med mening och själva nyheter är ju tragisk:

"Ban Ki-moon showed his influence in a firm phone call with Syria's president six weeks after protests began."

Från: Syria: Tanks 'deploy around Rastan' after protests | BBC News

Ganska intressant:

Sarkozy känns allt mer som ett europeiskt föredöme. En ledare av tyngd - moraliskt tydlig, får frågor att röra sig framåt och når ut.

"We will not accept a (political) regime which sends the army against peaceful demonstrators. However, it is not necessary, facing different political realities, to act every time with the same way," Sarkozy said, referring to military intervention."

Från: Sarkozy calls for "severe sanctions" against Syria | Xinhua

Det är fascinerande att betänka att vi faktiskt har någon form av EU styrelseordförande eller vad man ska kalla det. De flesta vet inte vad han heter och jag kan då för allt i världen inte komma på det nu vilket är en så bra indikation om något på dennes fullständiga misslyckande och meningslöshet. Det är tänkt som en politisk ledare och inte en administrativ-funktion vid möten.

För en organisation som gång på gång vill framställa sig som någon form av pan-europeiskt idé-koncept där vi alla ska hålla hand genom att avlöna ordentligt med överskotts-politiker för att undvika ett nytt Nazityskland, icke-standardiserad handel o.s.v. är idéen att man inte ens nått så långt i meningsfullhet att folk ser mening i att lära sig namnet på den högsta politiska ledningen pinsamt på nivåer som knappt går att uttrycka.

Det är fullständigt obegripligt att man kan haft detta problem år efter år men ändå varit oförmögen att göra något åt det. Det speglar säkert en till sida av samma problem.

Nord Korea - Mobiler beslagtas

Om folk givet situationen och risker redan börjar närma sig en miljon telefoner är det naturligt att diktaturen oroar sig men det är att betvivla om det gör någon skillnad. Intressantare är kanske det här:

"Registered users don't have much leverage, for instance. North Korea has its own cellular network called "Koryolink" that limits and monitors international calls to ensure outside news can't conflict with the government's official version.

In order to bypass this system, people who live in Hamkyong and Yangkang are tapping into Chinese and Russian networks to call relatives who have escaped over the borders.

They limit their talks to five minutes -- the time it takes to trace a call."

Från: North Korea Seizes Cell Phones

Nu var det ett tag sedan jag hade någon uppdaterad aktiv kunskap om mobil-protokollen eller kunskaper i bassystemen även om jag får erkänna att jag lärde mig och var road av att läsa om GSM och UMTS medan jag var på Ericsson 1999 (den senare var ju en standard som utvecklades vid tiden).

Varför går det nu inte via Sydkoreanska basstationer? Nå det störs väl kanske över gränsen? Eller så är det ev. så avbefolkat där nere att det inte når utan störa störningar (troligt lite både och kanske?).

Emellertid finns inget hinder för befolkningen att sätta upp egna basstationer och låta dem nu villiga basstationer som går att nå. Vi har ett flertal mobiltelefoner som klarar av det särskilt äldre Ericsson. De agerar basstation om de blir tillsagda. Man kan ju gå lite längre och helt enkelt programmera om ett par att sitta vid förslagsvis de ryska basstationerna som jag tror är dummare därför att något ekonomiskt värde finns ju inte och ev. politiskt intresse de haft förr är ju borta så de fungerar väl bara därför att de står medan de kinesiska kan vara uppdaterade och ha möjlighet att filtrera. Problemet är ju dock att du normalt inte vet vilken basstation du anknyts till men visst att det går att lösa också. Men sådant här får folk en mobil och de hittar några korta tidsfönster de tror är säkert är det ju strålande och mycket i sig här. Fungerar det är det bra. Landet är så isolerat men kan de nå ut får de något att jämföra med.

Andra möjligheter till det finns ju också. Några saker diskuterades och nämndes i:

Om något är det de 200 000 personer sitter i fångläger som skulle behöva lite mobiler. Och kanske fler verktyg än så. Ge dem vad de nu kan behöva och the wind of change lär blåsa vackert genom nerhuggen skog, förstörda jordbruksmarker och byar med svältande människor och säkert ända upp till Beijing.

Vietnam - Hmong - Nära gränsen - Begränsad

Notera för Vietnam:

"Thousands of ethnic Hmong people in Vietnam are holding a protest calling for autonomy in a rare outbreak of unrest, a local official tells the BBC."

Från: Vietnam: Ethnic Hmong 'in mass protest in Dien Bien'

Är det en isolerad fråga? Ingen fråga är isolerad om språk går in och språk går ut. Vi kan dock se det som praktiskt att en händelse antingen uppenbart eller inte påverkar. Men även när den inte påverkar uppenbart kan vi - argumenterar jag här utan att försöka göra det djupare - när spridningseffekt i krisens språk m.m. skatta en skala för att få en motsvarande lägre effekt. Innebärande exempelvis att två händelser som själva inte skulle ge en effekt kan samverka.

Rörande detta kan det ju vara bra att ta fram vår kartbok eller som jag gjorde Wikipedia och titta lite var det här i Hollywood-filmer välkända Vietnam men annars idag så tysta landet egentligen ligger:

Har nu landet kontakter med Kina? Det kanske man inte kan tro att de har särskilt mycket av fast det har dom. Och kommer jag ihåg ganska intensivt. Det handlar om en hel del handel i naturmedel, örter m.m. som går vöer gränsen. Och det är folk som är kompletterande internet, tidningar m.m. d.v.s. high value.

Vad skrev jag nyligen om geografisk närhet:

Ett praktiskt exempel på att detta översätter till konkreta mätbara resultat har vi först från studien i [2]:

  • Forskarna analyserade koordinater och geografiskt data för författarna till forskningsstudier publicerade.
  • Sambandet mellan författarna och geografisk distans mellan dem indikerade att större avstånd innebär en konkret kostnad.
  • Är närheten hög tenderar artikeln att bli mer citerad.

I detta mer än bara likhet i språket gäller ju hur effektivt språket är. I närhet finns större möjlighet att uttrycka känslor och känslor handlar just ofta hur vi upplever motivation och värde rörande risk och möjlighet. Högre exakthet kan göra att man arbetar mer effektivt tillsammans.

Från: Organisation av människor: Komplexitet, Värdering och Språkets effektivitet

Hur upplever vi det här emotionellt? Vi är trötta. Rör det sig igen? Mycket möjligt. I år varför inte. Om inte nästa år. Mindre troligt året efter. Knappast senare än fyra år. Men verkligen att jag skulle behöva titta mer. Finns förutsättning till förändring? Jo. Men det finns saker som oroar mig. Ja det har ju diskuterats tidigare så varför dra upp det igen. Rent personligt kan jag inte annat än önska att det skulle dröja åtminstone fyra månader men det är möjligt att det kommer innan dess. Emellertid har jag inte saker uppe än för att avgöra det trovärdigt alls.

Oavsett det. Det finns dynamik. Klarar saker att komma i övrigt kan det påverka positivt. Och jag menar det finns väl - det är korrekt att anta det - en anledning till att jag närmast unikt uttrycker jag vulgärt och smakligt direkt oartigt. Mer är verkligen mer här. Nära är bra. Men mer till det är väldigt bra om Kina ska röra sig.